Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Tennessee River Cruise to Chattanooga 2013
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The cruise to Chattanooga began on Sunday September 29th and took 23 days. Five days were spent at Joe Wheeler State Park Marina attending the America's Great Loop Cruisers Associatiion (AGLCA) Rendezvous. The total river round trip was 844miles from mile 42 at Kenlake Marina to mile 464 at Chattanooga . The Katy Leigh consumed 330 gallons of diesel and averaged about 2.56 miles per gallon cruising at 9 mph through the water.  Click here to start the cruise on day 1.

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Posted on 10/23/2013 9:42 PM by Bob Duthie
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Monday, 21 October 2013
Oct 21 Day 23 Fog, Boats, White Pelicans, & Eagles
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This was our last day on the Tennessee River Chattanooga Cruise. The day got off to a good start with Pebble Isle’s fresh, hot, cinnamon buns. Mavis ate hers aboard the Katy Leigh. We arrived at Kenlake Marina at mile 42 at 3:00PM and packed the car. We made it home just before sunset at 6:00PM. All was well at the house and the DVR was 96% full of new programs it had saved during the 23 days we were away.

Boats

It was a good day to get boat photos as they passed by the Katy Leigh. Roger and Vebbie travelled with us on "Hattitude". The Great Harbour looks a lot like a Krogen Whaleback Trawler except for the black logo below the pilot house. When I talked to the captain on the VHF he corrected me. 

Fog

The fog was all on the water today, just a few feet above the surface so we had no difficulty.

White Pelicans and Eagles

The most spectacular sight was a large flock of While Pelicans coming in for a landing around mile 75 in the Tennessee National Migratory Wildlife Refuge. White Pelicans have a wing span of 9 ft. and fly majestically, evenly spaced,  in a formation. This photo only shows a small fraction of all we saw.  It was very hard to get any kind of photo as the birds were on the other side of the river and I had to shoot through the window. I just had to guess if I would capture any on “film “.  They also disappeared and landed behind the islands.  At mile 56 there is shoal that is now showing with the water nearly at winter pool.  Standing on the shoal is what looked like a pair of mature eagles. 


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Posted on 10/21/2013 9:11 PM by Bob Duthie
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Sunday, 20 October 2013
Oct 20 Day 22 Fog and the Delta Mariner
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Fog


 

We had to delay our departure due to thick fog. At 9:00 it had lifted and it was sunny with blue sky. But then as happens frequently the fog closed in on the river and was so thick at one point I couldn’t see Hattitude 500 ft. in front of us.  We slowed right down and used the AIS, radar, chart-plotter, and our eyes to navigate.  Then as always the fog was gone.

Lady Finger Bluff

Fred Myers writes about this bluff in the Tennessee River Chartbook. The buff is at mile 130.2. He says’ “Legend has it that in pioneer days, a lady chose to leap to her death from this bluff rather than be caught by attacking Indians.”

 

Delta Mariner

Checking the AIS around mile 135 I discovered the Delta Mariner was approaching us. The Delta Mariner is the infamous cargo ship that knocked down the US-68 Eggers Ferry Bridge near Kenlake Marina in January 2012. This time it was approaching the US-212 Alvin C. York bridge.  You may remember we saw it cruising downstream on Day 1.  Now it was on its way back to Huntsville presumably to pick up another load of rockets. We got an up-front view as it passed by. Remarkably it made very little wake. It passed under the bridge without a problem.

Pebble Isle Marina

Tonight we had dinner at the marina. They had spent the day smoking baby back ribs.  I had a taste of Vebbie’s and they were really good.  Since they only had one half left the rest of us had hamburgers and the salad bar. 


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Posted on 10/20/2013 7:08 AM by Bob Duthie
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Saturday, 19 October 2013
Oct 14-19 Day 16-21 AGLCA Rendezvous
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We are still alive and happy. The Internet service at Joe Wheeler was so bad I had to give up trying to post anything new. Yesterday it was a long day and with visits from Joanie and Fred, I just couldn’t get to the computer.  Tomorrow we go to Pebble Isle Marina and Monday to Kenlake Marina and home by car.

AGLCA Rendezvous

The events started on Monday afternoon. There were 62 boats and 260 in attendance. The most fun was the newbees talking about their boats and worries. For example “I hope I am still married when we finish the loop”.  Another one I really enjoyed from a “wannabe” was “I am spending my time learning to operate my boat … but the engine won’t start. My mechanic says it needs a new starter”. The Looper Crawl is always fun where you hold open house on your boat and can tour others boats.  The Katy Leigh was on the main dock in front of the hotel and because of the new varnish had a large number of visitors. Mavis put everything inside away and I am still trying to find stuff.  I attended a few seminars and liked the ABC’s of Looping and How To Sell Your Boat After the Loop.  The ABC’s talk said it was very important to have a reciprocating saw aboard. I had to point out we did the entire loop without one of those. Curtis Stokes said “If you are going to sell your boat when you finish the loop then list your boat while you are on the loop.”  I bet some people knowing that would probably list their boat before even leaving and skip doing the loop.

Cruising to Grand Harbor and Clifton

At the rendezvous there was a captains’ meeting to organize departure on Friday. With so many boats the locks and marinas can get overloaded. I signed up for the 7:00AM departure with 8-10 others.  However, at 7:00AM we were in fog so thick you could hardly see the bow of the boat. The lockmaster at Wheeler also said not to come. We finally got going at 8:00 when the fog had thinned out. Watching some of the boaters tying on to the bollards in the lock was entertaining. One couple had all their fenders out but spent all their time with boathooks trying to keep the fenders from touching the lock walls. That is hard to do and it’s a wonder they didn’t lose a boat hook or worse wind up in the water. Fenders are sacrificial devices intended to keep the boat from getting scratched up.  If they get dirty, clean them off. One twin engine boat had the driveshaft break loose from the starboard engine. He left the lock and right in front of Hattitude stopped, jumped in the water with a rope, tied it to the propeller, and tied it to the boat.  He continued with us through the next lock at Florence.  Another boat instead of following single file insisted on staying right beside me.  If I slowed down, he slowed down. If I sped up he sped up. How he avoided getting green paint on his side I will never know.  Finally when we were about 10 miles from Grand Harbor he sped up and arrived a couple of miles ahead of us.

Fantastic Fall Fueling Frenzy

Grand Harbor decided to reward all loopers that came to the harbor with 25 cents off $4.14 per gallon. I filled up with 196.2 gallons of diesel. That’s what Katy Leigh drank to go the 500 miles to Chattanooga and back. It works out to 2.55 miles per gallon.

My Story in Heartland Boating Digital Magazine

My story on the 7 Things Every Great Looper Should Know appeared in the September-October issue. The layout by the Heartland Boating staff is great. You can read and see it here.


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Posted on 10/19/2013 6:07 PM by Bob Duthie
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Sunday, 13 October 2013
Oct 13 Day 15 Joe Wheeler State Park Marina
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The weather was perfect and we had an uneventful trip from Ditto Landing to Joe Wheeler. We arrived to find another boat in our assigned slip so we took the one beside it. Eventually the culprits were found and they left in their own boat. It would have been towed otherwise as a 45 ft. came in soon after.  I tried to hook up the cable TV with no luck and then the same result with the satellite dish. For some reason the receiver would not talk to the TV set.  I gave up and will continue life without tv as the only thing we watch is the news and right now it’s not even worth watching with the same news every day. How many ways can you say no deal has been reached? Internet service via Verizon is abysmal with one bar and many boaters trying to use their MiFi devices.

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Posted on 10/13/2013 7:02 PM by Bob Duthie
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Saturday, 12 October 2013
Oct 12 Day 14 Ditto Landing Marina
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Ditto Landing is the Huntsville-Madison County public marina. This is the third time we have stayed here and I dreaded staying here again. The docks were wood, and there were derelict house boats in the transient area that got an amazing number of visitors. Today we discovered all new concrete floating docks with power that works and water. There is a even an unmarked private bathroom for transients with a shower and all the other fittings. I would not hesitate to recommend Ditto now.  Tomorrow we will cruise to Joe Wheeler State Park for the start of the AGLCA Rendevous on Monday.


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Posted on 10/12/2013 5:08 PM by Bob Duthie
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Saturday, 12 October 2013
Oct 12 Day 14 Extra! The Truth About the Hanging Eagle
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You may remember this post from a few days ago. Sad Sight:  At the Guntersville Lock I looked up at a strange object hanging from one of the light standards. Binoculars showed it was a dead eagle that had dove down to catch a fish that was already caught on a line and lure. It must have flown up with its catch, but then got the line caught around the arm of the light standard. “Out of respect for the eagle I didn’t show a photo.

The Truth

Well today we went back through the same lock and got the scoop from the lockmaster.  It seems a flock of White Winged Buzzards or Black Vultures were so numerous at this lock they were eating the calking around the facility.  To scare them away, our government spent $200 to stuff a vulture and hang it from the light standard. It’s kind of like a scarecrow or maybe scarebuzzard and it worked. The buzzards are staying away.   The lockmaster said that when tow operators ask about the bird, he says “It’s to scare away tows!” 

You read this first on this blog. A photo of the gruesome sight follows. Our eagles are safe.

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Posted on 10/12/2013 4:36 PM by Bob Duthie
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Friday, 11 October 2013
Oct 10-11 Day 12-13 Chattanooga Museums
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The Hunter Museum

The Hunter Museum of American Art is a short walk up the hill behind the docks to the Bluff District. We started with breakfast at Rembrandt’s on the patio. A man, who was alone, must have spent 15 minutes on his cell phone talking about his motorcycle accident. Whoever he was talking to never got a word in. We walk around the sculpture garden first and were impressed with a horse sculpture made of drift wood. Closure inspection revealed each piece of “wood” was cast in bronze. The artist lives in Montana and specializes in horse sculptures. The museum is centered around a mansion that belonged to one of the Coca Cola people. The mansion has many rooms each with American paintings.  The most interesting showed the Tennessee River. There are two very modern wings on each side of the mansion. One has modern art and the other had a special show of work by Whitfield Lovell. This artist hunted down old photos of African Americans and painted large reproductions of one or more people in the photos on wooden planks, discs, and even large wire reels. In another area was the amazing glass sculpture of a woman’s silk dress. This is not a solid blog of glass but very thin glass like silk. We had an ok lunch at Tony’s in the district and then Roger and I returned to the boats.

Houston Museum

 Mavis and Vebbie went to the Houston Museum of Decorative Arts which is across the road from the Hunter. Anna Houston was a hoarder of glass and ceramics. Dying penniless she left 15,000 pitchers to the city. In one room the entire ceiling was full of hanging water and lemonade pitchers.

Cruise to Goose Pond

We said goodbye to Roger and Vebbie as they were staying in Chattaooga for the weekend. We were up Friday morning leaving the dock at 6:30AM for a long 83 miles cruise to Goose Pond. We had one lock we got through in 15 minutes. It was so nice cruising downstream averaging 9.4 mph vs. the 7-8 mph going upstream. We did the 83 miles in 9.5 hours. Dinner tonight was a take-out shrimp and grits dish from the Dock Restaurant that we split between us.


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Posted on 10/11/2013 10:06 PM by Bob Duthie
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Wednesday, 9 October 2013
Oct 9 Day 11 Chattanooga's Tennessee Aquarium
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Aquarium Day

Today was Tennessee Aquarium Day. There are two buildings to tour. One is for salt water and the other for fresh water. We started with the salt water. We rode up a long escalator to the top of the building and into a sunlit room with a pair parrots and a small pool where you can pet sting rays. You then walk through double doors to the butterfly garden. We were warned not to pick up any butterfilies on our clothes as there are many non-native species and if they get out the Aquarium can get into trouble.  Right away Roger attracted one of the largest and most beautiful, a Blue Morpho. When its wings are open you see the blue iridescent color. When its wings are closed its coloring matches the trees around it.  The Blue Morpho finally flew away from Roger’s hat and we could move through the double doors with two guards to another exhibit about penguins. After that we watched the jelly fish float up and down. The lighting is remarkable in that area. After lunch we toured the fresh water building which is undergoing renovations so the entire top floor with the Otters is closed.  It will reopen in 2014 and it will be worth going back just to see what they do. They have also turned off the neon light display on the ceiling of the large fish tanks which always impressed me.

IMAX Steam Trains in British Columbia

In the IMAX theater we saw the Rocky Mountain Express, a relatively new film that tells the story of the building of the Canadian Pacific Railroad across the mountain ranges in Alberta and British Columbia. It is spectacular and well worth seeing.  The CPR restored a 1930s steam engine to make the movie. There were lots of helicopter shots of the train and the mountains. Mavis and Vebbie were sea sick at the end.

Boathouse Rotisserie and Raw Bar

Chattanooga friends Bob and Gail joined us on the Katy Leigh and we all went to dinner at the Boathouse Rotisserie and Raw Bar. I had the Cajun shrimp that were very good. Mavis had clams that were very spicy hot. Bob and Gail just got back from an RV trip to Alaska and are leaving tomorrow for Michigan. It was great that our timing just fit their schedule.


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Posted on 10/09/2013 9:31 PM by Bob Duthie
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Tuesday, 8 October 2013
Oct 8 Day 10 Cruising the Grand Canyon of the Tennessee
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Quote from Fred Myers' CruiseGuide

We left Hales Bar without running aground although at one place the sonar showed less than 1 ft. under the keel. Then it was spectacular scenery all the way to town with high mountains on both sides of the winding river. You have to travel 33 miles to get 13 miles from where you started. There is some great stuff in Fred Meyer’s Tennessee River CruiseGuide that I enjoy reading each time we make this trip. For example at daymark 445.8 Fred says “Don’t be surprised if your depthfinder shows water as deep as 135 feet. One reason for this extreme depth is that the river follows an ancient earthquake fault.  This part of the river is known as “The Pan”. Names given to other troublesome stretches include “The Skillet”, “The Pot” and “The Suck”. The boatmen chose those names because the boatmen thought the boiling and swirling water reminded them of food being cooked.”

Chattanooga

After lunch aboard we walked up the stair step waterfall to the aquarium.  Then we crossed the Walnut Street pedestrian bridge, did a loop around the park there, and returned to have dinner at the Buffalo Wild Wings Grill and Bar. The sun was setting behind the waterfall beside the dock and I caught Vebbie and Mavis walking past.

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Posted on 10/08/2013 9:40 PM by Bob Duthie
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Monday, 7 October 2013
Oct 6-7 Day 8-9 Waiting for a Big Storm that Never Came
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Goose Pond

Supposedly huge storms with high winds and lightning were coming today (Oct 6), so we decided to stay at Goose Pond for a second day and delay our arrival in Chattanooga by one day. As it turned out it was a beautiful day and only rained a little that evening. We used the courtesy car and shopped once again at Wal-Mart. I managed to get 3 hours of work in editing a video for a client so that made the day payoff. The Dock was closed on Sunday so we couldn't get another round of shrimp & grits.

More about AIS Etiquette

The photo of the Garmin chartplotter screen shows how it determines where a following boat with a transmitting AIS will collide with my boat in exactly 3 minutes. This is not a really useful feature.

 

 

Hales Bar Marina

On the 7th we were up early and cruised to Hales Bar Marina near Guild, Tennessee. This marina has changed a lot since our last visit in 2006. A large number of docks have been added without increasing the size of the harbor. There are a lot of twists and turns to get into the harbor and no markings of shallow water. There is a new owner of the Ship Store that I talk to and described our products. His strategy is to sell the products that people ask for; not original but very smart marketing.  He said people were asking for the Tennessee River Chartbook and Fred Myers’ Tennessee CruiseGuide so I got a new customer.

Verizon Service

Verizon service is almost non-existent at Hales Bar even though I spotted a mountain top cell phone tower on the way in and got 4 bars in the river. Once in the harbor there were only one or no bars.  I had an online meeting scheduled for 5-6 pm.  Using the computer was out of the question, but by walking up a mountain to a rental cabin I was able to get consistent 1-2 bars and could participate in the discussion.

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Posted on 10/07/2013 9:17 PM by Bob Duthie
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Saturday, 5 October 2013
Oct 5 Day 7 Stories from Decatur and the Guntersville Lock
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How to Spend $36 to Visit Wal-Mart

There are two taxi companies listed in Google for the Alabama town of Decatur. We need to by ant traps badly as the tiny sugar ants were everywhere. Wal-Mart was 5 miles away so I called the first taxi company listed and arranged for an 8pm pickup at the marina. The driver was there at 7:45pm. Roger, Vebbie and I all jumped in and off we went. On the way we learned all about the boilers on the Delta Queen, as our driver used to work on that cruise ship and before then in the boiler room of an aircraft carrier. Then we learned that he was the owner of both taxi companies as well as the only driver, and that all calls went to his cell phone. It’s hard to believe there is only one taxi in a town of 56,000 people. He said he had another fare at 9:00pm and another at 9:30pm. Now we began to worry. Would we have to wait for 2 hours in Wal-Mart to get back to boat?  Walking 5 miles at night with no sidewalks was out of the question. We asked him to pick us up at 8:45pm. I shopped quickly and found a $2 ant trap and a few other items. I made it out the curb with others on time. No taxi; so I called and he said just 5 minutes more. Of course it took 15 minutes more but he did show up leaving his 9:00PM fare waiting. The total cost was $36. 

Sad Sight

At the Guntersville Lock I looked up at a strange object hanging from one of the light standards. Binoculars showed it was a dead eagle that had dove down to catch a fish that was already caught on a line and lure. It must have flown up with its catch, but then got the line caught around the arm of the light standard.

Beautiful Mountains of North East Alabama

This was a long day cruising 73 miles. Leaving at 7:30AM we didn’t arrive at Goose Pond Marina until 6:00PM. Once you get to Huntsville the area becomes mountainous and a great setting for the wide Tennessee River. The photos tell the story.

The Docks at Goose Pond Marina

Getting into the first dock was pretty exciting. You have to cross a vast field of milfoil weeds. A weed cutting machine has cut a channel but the growth of weeds on the bottom confuses depth sounders. Mine read -2.0 ft. and Roger’s just quit altogether.  The real bottom is probably 10 ft. down.  

The second dock was the Dock Restaurant where we all had the shrimp and grits. I had them there before in 2006 and this time they were even better. The Dock is the best marina restaurant on the Tennessee River. 


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Posted on 10/05/2013 10:15 PM by Bob Duthie
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Friday, 4 October 2013
Oct 4 Day 6 Three Lessons About AIS Etiquette
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This was a cruising day with two locks.  It was beautiful in the morning crossing Wilson Lake.  We cruised 46 miles to Decatur without incident.  Tomorrow we plan on 73 miles to Goose Pond marina near Scottsboro.on Guntersville Lake.  Sunday is expected to be stormy so we may have to reschedule our arrival in Chattanooga.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AIS Etiquette

AIS (Automatic Identification Systems) are now being installed in many cruising boats. AIS has tremendous benefits in knowing where tow boats are travelling on river bends and large fast ships on coastal waters. AIS gives the name of the vessel, its position, heading direction, and speed on a display at the helm.    Boaters that have installed a transmitting AIA Automatic Identification System should  learn the proper etiquette.

  1. It serves no purpose to keep the AIS transmitter turned on when your boat is tied up to a dock. Leaving it turned on clutters up the display of other boaters passing by or entering the same harbor.
  2. The process for turning off the transmitter may be difficult. Manuals need to be consulted and if all else fails then turn the circuit breaker off that feeds the transmitter.
  3. AIS receivers have an alarm that turns on if a transmitting vessel is nearby. In the morning turning on the receiver sounds the alarm if any other boat in the harbor has failed to turn off their transmitter. On Garmin units the AIS alarm sounds as soon as the receiver is turned on. After a few seconds the most ungodly screams announce an immediate collision is about to occur and the display shows a ship wreck symbol on top of everything else. 

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Posted on 10/04/2013 10:33 PM by Bob Duthie
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Thursday, 3 October 2013
Oct 3 Day 5 Touring the Frank Lloyd Wright Designed House
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We took a day off boating to get some work done and do some sightseeing. Tomorrow we head for Decatur.

Frank Lloyd Wright House

We borrowed the marina courtesy car and drove up the river bank to the Frank Lloyd Wright designed home here in Florence. We had an excellent tour guide, a retired teacher. He and his wife have been involved with this house since it was bought and restored by the city in 1999. The city paid $75,000 for the house and then had to spend $700,000 restoring it. It seems that Frank designed the outer and inner walls of cypress but put a layer of pine in between. Bad idea, termites got in and pretty much destroyed the home. Next to Falling Waters in Pennsylvania this would be most enjoyable FLW home we have visited. The home was built in 1940 by newlyweds Stanley and Mildred  Rosenbaum and added to in 1948.  All the furniture, books, and many other items were left by the Rosenbaums.  The front of the home is the back and the back is the front so it got the river view. Today trees completely obscure any view of the river. The long post free overhang is a car port.  All the many windows on the back have bronze screens on the insides of the windows that open out, and many of the windows are also doors. The bronize screens glow like gold in the afternoon sun.

Ricatoni’s Italian Grill

Dinner was at Ricatoni’s which is probably the best known restaurant in Florence. The atmosphere is warm and it’s easy to carry on a conversation. It’s not for the millennials (under 34) that text each other and don’t need to hear. The wine was good and two of us had the spaghetti and meat balls. Their bread is fantastic and comes warm in white paper bags.  I was advised by Eva at the marina office to just eat the bread while you are there and bring the rest of the meal at home. We didn’t go that far.


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Posted on 10/03/2013 9:02 PM by Bob Duthie
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Wednesday, 2 October 2013
Oct 2 Day 4 Tennessee River to Florence Harbor
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Startup Delays

 

Our 8:00AM plan to leave turned into 10:00AM.   I needed to wait for Grand Harbor harbormaster, Barry to arrive to register and talk business. He has started his “Looper’s Fantastic Fall Fuel Frenzy” which offers a 25 cent  per gallon discount on fuel.  I had to take advantage of that deal even though we were ¾ full after 3 days cruising. Then we needed a pump out.  It seems the aft holding tank vent was plugged up so it took a long time to clear the blockage so we could finish the job. I have to order a new filter.

PassageYacht – A Dutch Canal Boat

An interesting boat was near us.  It looked like the kind of boats that are sold in the USA that are made in Turkey.  I toured one at the last TrawlerFest and was not impressed.   I checked out boat’s website at passageyacht.com and changed my tune.  This boat was custom made in the USA and has beautiful woodwork in the interior.  The two tall dry exhaust stacks serve the diesel engine and genset. The design is based on Dutch canal boats.

Startup Problems

Vebbie and Roger stayed behind awaiting a mechanic to try and solve their dead engine battery problems.  The mechanic didn’t show up but Roger called the former owner’s mechanic and got a big surprise.  It seems the engine alternators feed the house batteries and not the engine batteries. The only way to charge the engine batteries is to run the generator.  It’s hard to believe any owner would make that change to the boat’s original wiring. Anyway, my jumper cables got them started and the generator ran the whole way and charged the batteries. They arrived at Florence about 3 hours behind us.

Pickwick Lake Cruising

 The weather was perfect with the sun sparkling on the water. Pickwick Lake is very beautiful with its wide stretches, and clean water.  Pickwick Lake is much like Kentucky Lake but doesn’t have nearly as many coves for anchoring.  The trip to Florence was smooth and we arrived at 3:30PM.

Famous Visitor & Great Food

Our friend and famous Florence author, Fred Myers, with his wife Joanie, visited us at 5:30PM. We publish Fred’s CruiseGuides and sell them in the shop on this website.  After much discussion all six of us went to the new restaurant on the dock called “Stanfield’s River Bottom Grille”.  I am not sure that is the best name for a restaurant but the food was very good.  Maybe gross attracts the millennials. We sat outside on the deck it was quieter than inside where music was playing for the younger set. We had breaded pickle chips, burgers, and flats.  I wanted to see a Cheeseburger Slider but no one would order that. Apparently sliders are tiny hamburgers.  The portions were huge and we all went back to the boats stuffed. We are staying here for another day and will see the town tomorrow.


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Posted on 10/02/2013 9:34 PM by Bob Duthie
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Tuesday, 1 October 2013
Oct 1 Day 3 Tennessee River to Grand Harbor Marina
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This was our first sunny day and a good day for photos. First I have to show off the new varnish on the Katy Leigh that was completed a couple of weeks ago by Florida based Yachtbrightwork .  A couple spent 10 days working on the boat at our marina. We cruised from 9:00AM (Hattitude had starting problems) to 5:45PM to cover 57 miles. One hour was spent at the Pickwick lock so our average speed was  7.4 mph. It was slow!  The worst place is just beflow the lock where the current runs at 4 mph slowing us down to 5 mph.  With no current we would be doing 9 mph.  The picture shows how the current builds up behind the buoys. The boredom was broken up with a eagle sighting, and the different homes we passed by.  One was built out of shipping containers. The Savannah Mansion is right beside Cherry Mansion which was the Union Headquarters during the Civil War. 

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Posted on 10/01/2013 10:21 PM by Bob Duthie
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